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Some Follow-Up for the Triad

Earlier today I advised a triad who was worried about legal marriage and health insurance. I also want to point out that nothing turns apathy into advocacy better than knowing someone affected by an issue. If you do decide to have a marriage ceremony between any two members of your triad, or if you decide to have a non-legally-binding ceremony, you might want to include a little section in your program that explains your situation. It could be cutesy, or educational, or quick and to the point - but explain why you chose to go the route that you did, and perhaps ask your wedding guests to consider donating to the various organizations that helped you out, or any political candidates whose views on healthcare coverage show promise for plural families.

For example, you could have a page called “Why No One’s Getting Married at This Wedding,” explain the situation in a little story, and then finish with “To ensure that in the future, people like us get to say ‘I Do,’ please consider supporting the following organizations and candidates…” Or, if you and your fiance go ahead and get married after finding another way to provide for your girlfriend’s health care, maybe have her say her own vows as part of the ceremony, explaining how much she loves you two, how true love matters more than legal contracts, and the sacrifices you three have had to make. That would do the double-duty of helping your guests understand your unique situation and helping pave the way for future poly families.

Congratulations on your happy, healthy relationship, and good luck navigating all of this.

Been with my fiance for 6 years. My best friend moved in with us and slowly we both realized we were seriously in love with her. She realized she loved us and a polyamorous relationship was born. There was a lot of talking beforehand, figuring out what we’re comfortable with and whatnot and it’s working really well. I am incredibly in love with her and my fiance… here’s the problem… I still want to be able to marry my fiance. But my girlfriend has a ton of health issues and it has kind of been decided whoever gets better insurance (from a full-time job) will marry her. The hard thing for me is my family has been waiting for us to get married for so long and I want that marriage but I want her to have good health insurance. If polygamy was legal there would be no problems but since it’s not… there is… for me anyway. I still want that marriage to him for my family for me, I’ve been planning it for years… maybe I’m being selfish?

This story just breaks my heart. It’s unfortunate that not only has plural marriage not become a human rights issue just like gay marriage, but the fight for gay marriage is actually pushing our cause backwards. I am so sorry to hear that the three of you can’t legally be married the way that works best for you emotionally and financially. You are not being selfish - it’s reasonable to want the wedding you’ve been planning for so long! Don’t beat yourself up over this. The enemy is external - it’s bigotry and legal snarls - not internal. You three have found something beautiful and fulfilling, so hold onto it no matter what the system says.

My advice would be to bring in some professionals on this. Talk to a lawyer who specializes in LGBTQ rights or other “non-traditional” marital and financial arrangements. Find out what your options are and get some paperwork and precedent on your side. Talk to a lawyer or another professional who is an expert in the healthcare field about what your girlfriend’s options may be regarding health insurance. You might not know what all the possibilities are, or you might not have the know-how to make them happen. Who knows - your girlfriend could find a way to get healthcare coverage without needing to be married to either of you. Maybe the three of you could all contribute to a pooled fund to help pay for her coverage. Maybe she is eligible for a plan you haven’t heard of. There’s a lot changing in terms of health insurance over the next few years, and I think it would be best if you three found someone to help you navigate the bureaucratic maze to find your best option. Build yourself a small army of doctors, lawyers, and other people who can help you three stay safe, healthy and sane. Know your rights and your options and document your decisions well. Know what could get you in legal trouble and how to avoid it, and who to call if you need help. It could get a little pricey speaking to all these lawyers and insurance professionals, but consider it an investment in your future together as a safe, healthy triad.

Once you’ve done that, you might find that you have a better array of decisions to make. You could hold a non-legally-binding ceremony for you and your fiance, or with all three of you (you’ll want to know the legal ramifications of this beforehand, though - talk to a lawyer in your state.) You could marry your fiance after finding another way to take care of your girlfriend’s health insurance. You could all move to another country where the marriage and healthcare laws are less frustrating (that’s a little drastic, though.) But no matter what you do, don’t sacrifice your happiness for the sake of money or legalized bigotry. Thousands of couples have come before you - gay couples who jumped through tons of legal hoops in order to adopt, divorced parents who shared custody before that was normalized, partners of people with health issues who must learn to navigate the healthcare system - and there are professionals out there who can help you carve out a place to be happy as well.

I don’t know what state you’re in, so I can’t give any specific resources, but you could start with these directories and organizations:

  • Poly Friendly Professionals this is the number one directory of lawyers, doctors and other professionals who are poly friendly. 
  • Alternatives to Marriage (linked to their healthcare page) This is more of an advocacy organization trying to help solve your problem once and for all, but they can probably connect you with lawyers and other advocates who know their way around the legal and healthcare systems.
  • PolyFamilies suggests that a poly family open a business together to deal with the health insurance issue

Anonymous asked: My wife informed me she wants a polyamourous relationship. I want it to work but have no idea what to expect. I'm having the hardest time dealing with the thought of the physical part of it more than anything else. Any advice?

Ah, you’re sort of on the other end of the question I answered previously. It’s always tough when someone who has always identified as mono finds themselves in a situation where a partner is asking for a new, poly arrangement. 

As far as knowing what to expect: my two best pieces of advice for you here are to ask your wife what she expects, and do some poking around online and read stories about other poly marriages to get a feel for what they’re like. Then, once you’ve read about the many different forms polyamory takes - from a three-partner household to a network of partners to a tiered system to a primary marriage with sexual openness - when you talk to your wife, ask her to describe her “best case scenario.” Does she want you to be her “primary” partner, but have the freedom to have sex with other people, or is she envisioning an arrangement where she has you, and a steady boyfriend or girlfriend (or both)? Ask her, if she could wave a magic wand and get exactly what she wants in this situation, what would that look like? Then, think about what your best-case scenario would be, and talk about that with her.

As for the physical part: we have a deeply ingrained cultural belief that sex makes a relationship exclusive. We can love all our siblings, we can have a dozen poker buddies, we can have two best friends we love in very different ways - but once we have sex with someone, they’re the only person we should be having sex with. Part of the polyamorous mindset is realizing that that’s rather arbitrary, and getting over the squicky feeling we’ve been taught to associate with our sexual partner having other sexual partners. If that is something you absolutely cannot get over, that’s fine - it’s just as ok to be mono as it is to be poly - but you and your wife will have to decide whether the marriage can survive if you cannot agree to the terms she’s asking for.

If that is something you do want to get over, you can start by having long, honest talks with your wife about your fears and concerns, and learning to trust her when she tells you about her feelings and needs. Read a lot about polyamory and jealousy, and try to sort out your own beliefs and feelings about sex, love, relationships, and exclusivity. Find new models and metaphors for thinking about sex. For example, we talk about sex in terms of a zero-sum exchange between people: we “lose” our virginity or “take” someone else’s, and women are described as “giving it up” or “giving it away” when they choose to have sex with someone. Thinking about sex as an activity that can be shared between people, rather as a tangible something that can be given, taken, and possessed, might help a lot when it comes to things like sexual jealousy.

Also, work out the specifics of why this gives you a hard time. Are you worried about being exposed to STIs? That’s a valid concern, but can be dealt with by talking to your wife about what precautions you two will take to protect yourselves and each other. Are you worried that her desire for other partners means her desire for you is or will be reduced? Are you worried that your sexual relationship with your wife will be diminished by the knowledge that she has been with other people? Getting to the root of your discomfort is the only way to address it, so when you and your wife talk, make sure you talk specifics.

Finally, a personal word of advice: I’ve found that the physical aspect - having sex with multiple people - turns out to be one of the easiest bits. It’s the other things, like time management, that get hairy. It really has no effect on me if my boyfriend sleeps with another person - he doesn’t love me any less, our sex is not any less fun, he doesn’t leave me for the new person, etc. In fact, having multiple partners has greatly improved all of our sex lives, because 1.) we learn and practice new skills with certain partners and then bring back this new stuff to other partners 2.) there is less pressure to be everything my partner needs, because if there is something I don’t like or won’t do (or something I want to do that he doesn’t), we can find someone else to fulfill that need and we can just enjoy what we have to offer each other without feeling pressured or like we’re missing out on something 3.) we don’t have to be afraid that our partner will leave us for someone else they find attractive, because they can pursue that person without bothering our relationship, and 4.) the confidence and energy you get from being with one partner carries over into your sex life with another partner! You may find that this doesn’t bother you in practice nearly as much as it does in theory. Imagining your wife with someone else is tough to deal with, but when you remove the negative association with cheating, there’s a lot less threat there. 

Good luck! Ask your wife as many questions as you need to, read up on arrangements like the one she’s asking you for, and dig to the root of your feelings. 

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